Is Anybody Home?

No, I'm pretty sure that John McCain has control of his faculties.  My question is really about the American people.  Hello?  Are you watching, gang?  Do you see this?

How can this avoid your field of view?  How can you possibly miss this?

He's referred to Czechoslovakia four times recently.  He said that illegally imported cigarettes might be a good way to kill Iranians.  He said that the al Anbar Awakening began as a result of the Surge even though it predated it.  He's concerned about the border between Iraq and Pakistan (aka Iran).  He vowed to veto every beer.  He said that Iran was training Al Qaeda, was corrected on camera, acknowledged his mistake, and then did it again later that same week.  Last year he claimed that Baghdad had safe areas to walk around in, go shopping, and so forth.

Then he went over there.

You can't see the damned helicopters in that picture.  Yeah, I usually have air support when I go shopping.  I'd like to remind you that he also said that General Petreaus went out for drives in Baghdad in an unarmored Humvee.  That was not only wrong, it was insane.  There are no unarmored Humvees with our troops in Iraq, and if there were and somehow our top general was dumb enough to ride in one, well, thanks John for telling everybody he's in one.

His staff attacks anybody who points any of this out.  Mentioning that Senator McCain's timeline is wrong is, according to his spokesman, belittling the troops.

Do I think that John McCain is too old to be president?  No, I actually do not.  I do not know the man and as such I do not know if he's always had such a slight acquaintance with reality or facts.  He may not be a "details" guy.  I dunno.  I don't really care as to the why.

Do I think that John McCain has been lying?  Don't know, really.  I don't think so.  I certainly hope not.  I'm frankly worried he's starting to believe things like his Iraq timeline, at least when he said it.  He's never really been known for outright mendacity, so I'm inclined to believe that he thought that this was actually true at the time.

Several of the above are gaffes.  Gaffes, in and of themselves, are not a big deal.  Anybody will make 'em.  Add them up and it looks pretty bad, or course.

The al Anbar/Surge timeline thing, though, that's not a gaffe.  He did not misspeak, not in the conventional sense.  He attacked Senator Obama for failing to understand the basic history, yet in the very same attack evidenced his own lack of understanding of that same basic history.  So he either lied or did not know what the fuck he was talking about.

I don't think I know which one of those is worse.  If I had to guess, frankly, I'd prefer that he lied.  At least a liar can be competent.

Gang, spread the word.  Don't make it about his age, though.  We don't know that that's the reason, and it ultimately doesn't matter why he can't keep his facts straight.  By all appearances he just can't keep 'em straight.  The media is giving him less press than Obama, but it's still ample rope for Senator McCain to hang himself.  He cancelled his only media availability for the week already.  He can't do that indefinitely.  He ain't in the White House like President Bush.  He cannot ignore them forever.

Please, America, provide the audience.  Please pay attention to what this man says.



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Tips? (2.00 / 17)

For knowing what the fuck you're talking about?


by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 04:52:12 PM EST

Re: Tips? (2.00 / 9)

I don't think McCain is qualified to be President of the United States of America.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 04:55:40 PM EST
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Re: Tips? (2.00 / 4)

I agree, if he wins it would only be due to single issue/party loyalists/low self esteem voters.

He has ran the worst campaign and even with media safety has escaped the BIGGEST gaffes (imagine if Obama said Czechoslovakia was a country, but because mccain is old he gets a pass??? wtf???)     but yet he has 45% approval rating?!?!

It should be 22%, right with his hero GWB  


by DemsLandslide2008 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:03:20 PM EST
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Re: Tips? (2.00 / 1)

I don't think McCain is qualified to be President of the United States of America.

He's certainly no MLK.

(now that the primary is over and tempers are cooled, I felt like taking a shot at Helen Thomas for saying something truly stupid.)


We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.
by Jess81 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:27:39 PM EST
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I think this line of attack... (none / 0)

...is the most powerful.  The best argument for McCain was some sort of non-partisan historical statement that he "deserved it" because he is the sort of candidate that traditionally wins elections (Grant, Bush I, William H Harrison etc.).

The "McCain meltdown" meme has real power precisely because his faculties aren't a partisan issue. So it serves to undercut this non-partisan idea of "it's his turn". My mom is about as anti-Obama as she can be.  Yet I just have to point out the times that he has looked legitimately lost on the trail and she pretty much agrees that she can't ALLOW McCain to win (so she pretty much says she'll vote Obama).


Visiting the hopium dens proudly since 2007.
by AZphilosopher on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 07:49:15 PM EST
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Re: I think this line of attack... (none / 0)

Well, it's getting some traction, even at the 'McCain friendly' Washington Post:


We interrupt the nonstop coverage of Barack Obama's overseas trip to bring you some breaking whispers about John McCain.

He has been making a series of verbal slips -- invariably described as "gaffes" -- that are starting to ricochet from liberal blogs to the mainstream media. And fairly or not, some critics are suggesting the 71-year-old Republican candidate is showing his age.

Howard Kurtz - Is McCain's Age Showing? Tongues Wag Over Flubs Washington Post 23 Jul 08

So he can't be wrong about foreign policy because he's an expert so he's got to be doddering.  OK, works for me...


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 08:11:08 PM EST
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Re: I think this line of attack... (none / 0)

Grant, Bush I, and Harrison.  Legends, all.


by rfahey22 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 08:33:14 PM EST
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Well, Grant is. (none / 0)

Legitimately. But definitely not because of his Presidency. :) And he certainly had a positive affect on Lincoln's.


There had better be cheese at the end of this maze...
by LoosCanN on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 08:52:22 PM EST
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Re: Well, Grant is. (none / 0)


"The art of war is simple enough.  Find out where your enemy is.  Get at him as soon as you can.  Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving on."

General Ulysses S. Grant 1862


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 09:22:11 PM EST
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Re: Is Anybody Home? (2.00 / 2)

I was hoping someone would post this over here...


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 04:54:54 PM EST

Weak Politician, or is he just slipping? (2.00 / 1)

I never paid too much attention to McCain since 2002 when I realized he was always just another boot licking Republican (big suprised, i know)

I say that because I am not sure if he just sucks at "spinning" the facts or if he is losing his faculties.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 04:59:09 PM EST

Re: Weak Politician, or is he just slipping? (2.00 / 2)

Took me until mid-to-late 2004.

His Daily Show appearances were so endearing... I believed the media maverick label (mostly because the right-wing was so hard against him)... He was following through on his most public vows about campaign finance reform.

It took a while for me to see the rest of McCain's platform and get around the big media boulder of "maverick". But eventually you see the data on his voting record (really conservative) and you catch on. I still think that the theoretical 2000 McCain would've been nice.


by TCQuad on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:21:51 PM EST
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If you watched Andrea Mitchell on Today (2.00 / 3)

You know why the public is misinformed. Our corporate-driven media is far too powerful.


by Neef on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:00:30 PM EST

Re: If you watched Andrea Mitchell on Today (2.00 / 3)

Yea, I dont see her or Gregory surviving the woodshed.

I thought I Respected Mitchell but since the primary ended I realized she is the worst kind of "journalist", the kind that has no problem creating the story when she is supposed to report it.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:07:44 PM EST
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Re: If you watched Andrea Mitchell on Today (none / 0)

"The worst kind of journalist". She doesn't get leg tingles.


by Marjoriest on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:12:52 AM EST
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Re: If you watched Andrea Mitchell on Today (none / 0)

Wow.  Talk about childish.  When you've actually got an argument, please come back and give it a whirl.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:36:20 AM EST
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Re: Is Anybody Home? (2.00 / 2)

He's stuck in a Viet-Nam era time warp, while the rest of us, and the world, has moved on.  Listen to him and imagine it is 1972 and it all makes sense, he's channelling General Westmoreland.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:07:51 PM EST

Re: Is Anybody Home? (2.00 / 2)

You can say that again!

What kind of human being gets unbelievable torture while as a POW, and is held for FIVE LONG GRUESOME years, then turns around and says WE COULD HAVE WON THE VIETNAM WAR,   and just last year flip flopped on the right of our military to torture prisoners?!?

Do I respect his service?

Let me be the first Democrat to publicly say NO!

What kind of person would use their POW and torture victim status for politics and then turn around and piss on every American solider by supporting a precedent that opens up every American/UN/NATO soldier to being justifyable tortured?

Don't get me wrong, Bush authorized torture, McCain the torture victim advocated that authorization.

thanks for this diary, we need stay focussed on attacking McCain.

This site definatly needs more of that.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:13:38 PM EST

Re: Is Anybody Home? (2.00 / 3)

I'm not sure his problem is his age.  It may have more to do with his POW experience that we shouldn't discuss either.

So, if his age is off the table and his war experience is off the table, can we at least ask if he used to drink before he turned 40?  Didn't Bush refuse to discuss his early years?  Seems to have worked for him.

So how do we stop it from working for McCain?


by Susan from 29 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:18:50 PM EST

Re: Is Anybody Home? (2.00 / 1)

McCain today on this...

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/arch ives/2008/07/mccain_defends_anbarbefores urg.php


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 05:59:04 PM EST

Re: Is Anybody Home? (none / 0)

Ah, I see, the surge wasn't the increase in troop levels, it was the operation that happened before the Anbar Awakening that led to the increase in troop levels.

Can I have some of what he's smoking?


by TCQuad on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 10:40:11 PM EST
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Rec list (2.00 / 1)

Wow, its nice to finally see an anti-mccain diary on the top of the rec list.

Maybe with all the closeted Puma back on the site today we can compromise and not talk about Obama, or the 8 other candidates that lost against him in the primary, but talk about taking out the GOP.

When was the last time THIS blog was responsible for exposing a GOP scandal.

I have seen us expose alot of Democratic and Covert-Republican(puma) scandals but nothing on the GOP side.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 06:02:15 PM EST

yeah, and Obama thinks we have 57 states (none / 0)

he bragged about visiting all of them.....


by BJJ Fighter on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 09:39:44 PM EST

Re: yeah, and Obama thinks we have 57 states (none / 0)

Maybe he has plans for some of our NATO allies in his second term.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 10:44:31 PM EST
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But given how mean and bitter we (none / 0)

are here, how will he persuade them to join us? I mean, most of them are bi-lingual, as opposed to all of us here in the USA who are so ignorant. I can't think of any who would want to be one of the new seven states he envisions....


by BJJ Fighter on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 11:14:41 PM EST
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Re: But given how mean and bitter we (none / 0)

Well six, counting Puerto Rico as in the bag already.  Britain is close on language and they already have our TV and love french fries, Luxembourg is a theme park, Belgians have been shifting allegiances for years and already speak three languages so one more is no stretch, the Finnish are basically Nokia with reindeer so that's OK, Spain, well, it's our second language, and we're already in love with the Irish, or should be.  Where's the problem?  We'll stack the European Parliament in our favour and grab Australia for good measure.  They say they don't like us but they're not really serious.  And they have the world's coldest beer, on tap.  Read it and weep.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37:04 PM EST
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Well, of course, there's Afghanistan.. (none / 0)

except that according to Barry, we need more "Arabic" translators there (has this guy been taking lessons from W???) For someone who made Harvard Law Review, he's really pitifully ignorant.

As for "read it and weep", take a look at Rasmussen's new numbers for OH: McCain 52%, BO 42%. Hard to believe that for Republicans overall, it really is a terrible year....just not in the presidential contest.


by BJJ Fighter on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:17:58 AM EST
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Re: Well, of course, there's Afghanistan.. (none / 0)

I meant the cold beer, actually, with the 'read it and weep' remark and it really is cold although it's winter here now.  As for Afghanistan, how many West Virginia's do we need?


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:21:53 AM EST
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Re: Is Anybody Home? (none / 0)

I was talking to a friend earlier today and we both wondered if there isn't something actually wrong with McCain. He really does seem to be slipping and slowing down. I am no doctor, but I wonder if his health is all that great?


"And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:24:54 AM EST


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